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Out of Touch With Reality

October 26th, 2005 | Category: Politics, Millitary

Being the good conservative that I am, I like to keep tabs on the evil ways of the left. In that spirit, I signed myself up for emails from the reprehensible moveon.org organization. Recently, in a celebration of 2000 dead American soldiers, they sent out this message, which begins as follows:

Dear MoveOn member,

Yesterday we reached the sad milestone of 2,000 killed in Iraq. But for the most part, the national media are ignoring this tragic milestone. The men and women who died deserve better.

Ignoring? WTF? The media barely spends time covering anything but body counts in Iraq. Now that the 2000th death has come, the media has worked itself into a frenzy. I should let the links do the talking:

Just Google news search “2000 Iraq” for even more coverage. Talk about zero credibility. If those freaks at Moveon.org want to know what it’s like to have a story truly ignored, check out the OU suicide blast story. What a bunch of lying liars.

Ex-Donkey compares the news articles on dead American soldiers to the Iraq constitution approval stories. Guess which gets more coverage?

Update: I’m adding a trackback to The Political Teen on the Open Trackbacks post.

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335 Comments so far

Arzhang October 27th, 2005 7:59 pm

Is it a bad thing to talk about body counts? I mean this is the real COST of war. We should honor their sacrifice by at least letting the caskets be shown. But no.

I’ve heard plenty of coverage the constitution but these deaths are a DAILY thing. Just because it is so frequent are you saying we should suppress it? I think you are probably saying you would like more coverage of things like a constitution being approved. Well maybe it is because there is so much chaos that it is not. I mean people are dying left and right so even with a constitution how effective is it, or will it be. That’s what I would like to see covered, the more indepth story of how Iraq is divided (even efore we invaded) and the ways that such peoples can come to a peaceful existence.

I also heard Iraq is putting in a type of Islamic Republic. Not really waht I would call ideal, or near it. Body counts always are news. This is nothing new; it is the nature of war. If it is any type of bias it is one that has been there all along.
Matthew October 28th, 2005 3:01 am

What would someone who was opposed to the war make into their talking point? You can bet they would harp on body counts. If Cindy Sheehan ran a newspaper, don’t you think that’s what every front page would have? “3 dead from IED blast in Mosul.” And that is exactly what our media (NYT, WaPo, big 3, etc.) runs as news.

I have read interviews conducted with our military commanders who remark that when being interviewed, journalists always ask about the deaths and injuries and then make little effort to report what the mission was, where the troops were headed, what was accomplished, etc. They remark that they are very annoyed by the obsession in the media with the death toll.

The media themselves acknowlege their own piss-poor reporting by using a cop-out and claiming that it’s too dangerous outside the green zone. So they rely on inaccurate word-of-mouth body counts, or to interviewing unreliable locals (as your 100,000+ sham study also did) for their figures.

My whole point is just for you to think about how someone who opposed the war would cover it. Would they highlight the progress that is actually made - like that Iraq’s profits from oil exports are at an all time high - or would they constantly publish deaths and injuries before anything else? Would someone who opposes the war refrain from calling a terrorist a terrorist and instead call them ‘insurgents’ or ‘militants’ (or freedom fighters and Iraqi minutemen as that ignoramus Moore puts it)? Would someone who opposes the war make a huge deal about an arbitrary number (2000) or would they focus on the mission that has to be completed?

I am not accusing the media of lying in this situation. I am accusing them of altogther transparency in their coverage of the war - coverage which is blatantly anti-war.
Arzhang October 28th, 2005 7:17 pm

Sham study? You have to explain that more. Read it and point out specifics.

Also if the media was so “opposed” to war as you claim isn’t it interesting the nearly free pass they gave to this administration when they were talking about mushroom clouds and such nonsense? If the media was so “opposed” why didn’t they give them hell THEN? Perhaps they flipflopped or maybe they are taking the administration to task since they said we would be greated as liberators and this would be a cake walk. Thye finally got some balls, balls they should have had to question our motives for going in in the first place.

You whole terrorist argument is incredibly weak. Umm look at what the ARMY GENERALS call these people. They call the IINSURGENTS! Are they also anti-military. Your logic is flawed. Perhaps you should be griping at the troops for not calling the enemy terrorists. The media in many ways is parroting the lingo of the military people on the ground.

The coverage is more catch-up for what htey should have done. Really question the hell out of our leaders before jumping into a war based on bogus intelligence. A failure of the media indeed.
Matthew October 29th, 2005 1:14 am

The sham study - we’ve already had this discussion. Basically, the study counted fatalities by going door to door well after attacks and asking how many people died on such and such date. Since they didn’t check death certificates, the whole thing could easily be a fabrication. I can give you the link to the post on my old blog if you’d like. That is the Lancet study, is it not? Completely unverifiable and done by an institution with a known anti-war bias. Even the staunchly anti-war site iraqbodycount.net doesn’t have the audacity to trumpet 100,000+ deaths because it’s a total fabrication.

If you want to talk about the media’s conduct pre-war, we can. But I’m talking about their coverage of the war. Perhaps you could start a post about what you think the media did wrong, or more specifically, how they aided the Bush administration ‘war machine’ by detailing their sins of omission and commission. Then we could have a serious discussion.

At any rate, I dug up the BBC policy on using the ‘t-word’. You can check it out for yourself. They specifically forbid the use of the word. I have not heard a US military commander refer to these thugs as ‘insurgents’, but you could easily prove me wrong. I’d like to see some sources on that.

My main point remains - the media has obsessively focused on the body count and the human toll of the war and not on the mission. Here’s another example from Michelle Malkin. Please read it, it is a perfect example of what I’m talking about. The media selectively chose a portion of this soldier’s letter, leaving out the part that he believed in the mission and the courage he showed. The NYT’s intent was clearly only to focus on the loss of this wonderful human being.

I suppose it is difficult for you to imagine what a fair and balanced coverage of the war might be like. We would hear about the fatalities, but the coverage would be mindful of the dangerous mission that our soldiers face every day, and they would be eager to report all of the accomplishments (not just the setbacks). For example, only Fox News covers the burgeoning free press in Iraq. This is huge! Any democracy needs a free press, and yet, why don’t we hear about this at the same volume as 2000 troops dead? As I alluded to earlier, Iraq is exporting for profit a record amount of oil. Where’s the news coverage? They’re busy interviewing Cindy Sheehan.

You can choose not to look at the situation objectively, to be satisfied with piss poor journalism because it fits your own biases like a glove. It’s just sad that someone who is always telling me to look deeper cannot see for himself.
Nick October 30th, 2005 9:26 pm

Moveon is also exploiting the dead for fundraising and employee recruitment.
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